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Suzuran
 
   
  
 
 
Since: 07-22-02
From: Illinois
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What is it with everyone going to all this time, trouble, and effort just to steal RO time from Gravity? For all the work and intrest people are putting into "Private" servers, they could easily do some useful work for $13 a month and play the legitimate server. What is it about Gravity that sucks so hard that everyone wants to rip them off? What'd they do to you?
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Sasami
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Since: 02-18-02
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Suzuran
Since: 07-22-02
From: Illinois
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This question has been answered, but I don't have a useful reply to the answer yet. I'll post one if and when I can think of one.
I am sorry things went so badly for you, though.
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Aisu
Since: 06-26-02
From: California
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There a numerous of facts in which causes people to play these private servers instead of a legitimate server.
First fact is not everyone can afford to spend an extra 13 dollars a month. Mind you, Ragnarok Online consists of people ranging from children to adult. Those adults who are probably less fortunant and that are on their own probably would want to save money instead of spend it. So in this case, they look for private servers so they can play for free instead of spending money.
Second is that children's parents may not want to spend money for them. Hence they look for private server.
Third is Gravity's poor service, and constant faulties that they express. Sure they're improving at some things...but then they're also falling on other subjects. Some private servers could be more stable than the iRO and such...and may have less bugs and such. Even if there was a bug on the private server that would benefit a player, they wouldn't care.
Fourth is that some people are permanently banned and still want to play Ragnarok online.
Fifth is because some private servers are actually near close to the kRO version and have things that the iRO server doesn't. Q Pet system...Guild Castles...Comodo/Comodo patch...etc, can be all found on some private servers.
Sixth, some people don't like the current community of Beta2 because of the poor quality, compared to the Alpha version. |
Kasatka
 
Since: 09-25-02
From: Palana, Koryak, Russia
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That reminds me of private/Cuban health care. It may not be totally legal, but it can often be better than the real thing, and, like health care, if you go to a smaller organization, you can often get you're looking for.
It's a pity, but it's a lot easier to appease the masses if the masses are... less...
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massive.
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Well put, Kasatka, you idiot.
Buy a thesaurus.
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Chibi-Bar
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Since: 04-16-02
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sadly.. the private server have more features and even better Customer service that live servers. I have play a few.. there are virtually no lag (less people) and more stuff to do..
what it is true that the private servers are like kRO which have all the features built in... unlike iRO which are like 2 years behind or something..  sad isn't it?
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MingShun
 
Since: 05-10-02
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It takes a bit of time to translate from Korean to English. But I don't know whether the lag behind the main server is justified because of the translation time.
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Chibi-Bar
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I don't know.. I find it way harder to translate Korean to Japanese.. or even Korean to Chinese...
doesn't Singapore have their own server? (couldn't remember) they are english speaking country. (love the place.. nice and safe place to live.. expensive but nice)
Or korean to Thai for that matter.... I know Thai (being part) and the writing and language structure is WAY different than korean.. and have more constenence and vowels (like over 100)... I would think it is way easier to translate to english than to Thai..
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MingShun
Since: 05-10-02
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I don't know Korean...so I can't confirm your theory.
But the countries are really close to each other (maybe an hour flight away)...that can help translation speed, methinks. Although with the net, distance is not as good an excuse...
I heard that Singapore did have their own server, and that it was open beta at the time. But maybe it was another country, I don't remember.
I do know that most of the asian countries have way more players than iRO though. That and a positive attitude may definitely help speed updates. Lol, they can't seem to do enough to please the iRO players XD
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Aisu
Since: 06-26-02
From: California
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From what I can tell......
Since most private servers are up to date on translations [100% full english], then Gravity [should] have no problems translating either.
Mind you, Gravity is left with mostly just reject-staff members, since the CEO of Gravity left along with many supporters of his. |
Suzuran
Since: 07-22-02
From: Illinois
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It's not so much translation as it is bugtesting; I dunno exactly.
I will be finding out tomorrow. I leave tomorrow for LA, where I have a job interview at Gravity.
Wish me luck!
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MingShun
Since: 05-10-02
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G'luck!
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Aisu
Since: 06-26-02
From: California
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yay! G'luck!
Now we have our own SPY >=) |
MingShun
Since: 05-10-02
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Methinks "Spy" is too strong a word. Perhaps..."Subtle information gatherer" would be better ^____^
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Suzuran
Since: 07-22-02
From: Illinois
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Uguu~~ That's kinda rude. Besides, it's not like anything really uber-secret gets posted here anyway. If anything, consider it as having someone who actally ANSWERS questions / relays things to people.
Interview went reasonably well - Christy is a nice person, in person. They tell me which way they decide sometime within the next week.
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MingShun
Since: 05-10-02
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-_- sorry...
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Suzuran
Since: 07-22-02
From: Illinois
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Hehe, it's OK. You have to do more than call me names to get me mad 
In any case, to answer the prior questions, here's why iRO is "behind":
(Note: Gravity LLC = Gravity in LA that runs iRO. Gravity KR = Gravity Korea.
Gravity LLC and Gravity KR are completely different companies.)
1) Gravity LLC does *NOT* have access to AEGIS source code. They CANNOT make patches on their own, and they are not supposed to change the AEGIS script AT ALL without the dev team's OK. (The dev team is all employees of Gravity KR)
2) Bugs are patched by having the GM team positively identify a bug and it's entry conditions, enter this data into a form, and file the form with the dev team. The dev team is obligated to handle the bug report over the next several days.
3) iRO has a disporportionately high amount of user issues which require GM attention, thus distracting them from performing the steps in item 2.
If you plot iRO's updates since p2p opening vs. other services updates since p2p opening, you can see that iRO actually moves faster than the other services do. We started last, so we're currently in last place.
iRO's slow bug-fixing activity is due mostly to the high number of user issues, coupled with the fact that until recently Christy was the entire GM team, and one person can only do so much.
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MingShun
Since: 05-10-02
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Interesting...how strong do you think Gravity L.L.C's financial situation is? School has started, and many players can't play at this time.
Do you think Gravity will be able to hold out till winter?
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Suzuran
Since: 07-22-02
From: Illinois
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I'm fairly sure they'll make it. They've survived all the other crap so far, I don't see how things can get too much worse. I wasn't given financial information, but considering they are trying to hire more Sub GMs, it can't be too bad.
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MingShun
Since: 05-10-02
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That's good to hear. I failed to take into account that Gravity has been hit by alot of problems, yet it still goes on. Thanks for pointing it out
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