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Cleff
 
   
  
 
 
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Is there such a thing as DOS hacking ?
If so, what does it do ? Does it require internet acess to do it ? What knowledge is needed to learn it.
What will happen if I edit my registry 
Do some viruses make use of this method to damage a computer ?
What is debugging and what programs can be used to do it ?
Hope you can answer them 
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technically this should go into the programming forum.. but...
DOS stands for denial of service in the context you are using it (i assume) and it can involve hacking or just sending a massive ammount of packets to a machine to overwelm and kill it, it's just as the name applies, a denial of service attack. There is no specific one, and why do you want to do one, phreaking is retarded and generally for newby script kiddies -.-
You can edit your registry all you want, I do it all the time to tweak windows and/or programs to get extra functionality they dont provide. all the registry is, is 2 hidden files in the windows directory that act as databases (well, in win98 it was user.dao and sys.dao as i remember... or was it da0?.. or dat....) And yes, you can damage the registry to harm a computer.. just like you can damage anything to a computer to harm it... again.. phreaking.. why?
debugging is the process of taking bugs out of a program. You have to make a program first to do it and since you are asking these questions, i doubt you know how. |
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you can also learn a bit more from the grc (gibson research center). he wrote 2 articles on it.
massive dos
distributed reflection dos
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lagwagon
 
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so thats where the registry was saved...
been trying to make a more user-friendly regedit (just for practice/fun) but i couldent find the reg files.
cool well i got a vb dev environment waiting for me now lol =D
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MingShun
 
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Actually, I think there are some functions built into microsoft compilers that allow you to manipulate the registry. you shouldn't even have to know where the file is to use em.
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| there are win api calls to use the registry, there really isnt a use of making a front end to it except for either the challenge of reverse engineering the structure, or trying to optomize a good regedit tool. Regedit works fine as far as i'm concerned for manually changing reg entries and its not hard to add reg functionality into programs. |
lagwagon
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Originally posted by MingShun
Actually, I think there are some functions built into microsoft compilers that allow you to manipulate the registry. you shouldn't even have to know where the file is to use em.
yes, but i dont want to test my program on the real registry. i wanted to copy the files and use them for tesing (you never know... might be a tiny syntax error that accidentally deletes all microsoft registry keys and subfolders' keys, however small the chances)
Originally posted by Sasami
Regedit works fine as far as i'm concerned for manually changing reg entries and its not hard to add reg functionality into programs.
i understand sys registry, but its my friends from my band who want to make changes to their registry, and they are almost computer illiterate (it took me half an hour to explain system registry and they still barely grasp the concept) they dont like the computer that much except to play CS occasionally, download music, and somtimes try out new [pirated] games and other demos. thats why they want to learn registry, and to make it easier for them im makeing them a simple, yet more user-friendly app.
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theres not really any damage you can do unintentionally in the registry unless you are mesing with stuff you shouldnt, and even then, programs usually have safe guards for invalid data. All they need to do for what they want is go into /hkey_local_machine or /hkey_current_user then /software/companyname or product name
and edit the keys in there appropriatly. Why would they even need to go into /software/microsoft or any other place they arnt trying to change... theres not really that much they can do accidentally. the registry is just a database, nothing more. |
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if they do decide to make changes, tell them to back up their reg.
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lagwagon
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yes, but one of my friends already had to reformat because he screwed up his registry so bad hehe...
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| windows xp screws up my registry itself and i have to go in and fix it... i hate xp |
lagwagon
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i have heard that ME and 2k were bad, but i have gennerally heard good things about Xp
well it really doesn't matter to me, becuase im too lazy to endeavor into a new operating system. even if i werent, i wouldnt really care to see what new ways microsoft can screw up an OS =P
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MingShun
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2k? bad? I dunno, I think it's a good windows version. Right now though, I think there's a conflict between winamp and windows...cause I get a svchost error every once in a while.
I'm not gonna list all the good points of 2k...I can't remember them anyway. But I don't think 2k is bad. ME maybe, damn sucker is real annoying. You can't even migrate it to 2k -_-'. ah well.
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lagwagon
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well i heard bad things about 2k, but i really wanted to get win2k server, because i used to run an FTP before i started playing mmo's... the ftp took up too much bandwith while i was playing =)
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Originally posted by lagwagon
i have heard that ME and 2k were bad, but i have gennerally heard good things about Xp
well it really doesn't matter to me, becuase im too lazy to endeavor into a new operating system. even if i werent, i wouldnt really care to see what new ways microsoft can screw up an OS =P
2k bad!?! blasphemy! i loved 2k even when my comp went bsod happy on me. i finally fixed it after 3 months... very stable compared to 9x/ME. i hate ME. the only gripe i have with 2k is that i need 4 bootdisks to install/repair... and that spoofing ip thingy... other than that it's peachy.
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| *huggles her 2k install* |
lagwagon
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well i am getting quite tired of win98...
i suppose ill go buy a copy of 2k when i get some money =)
but ill probably get win2k server, and ill give you all access to my FTP ;-)
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MingShun
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The only bad thing I've heard about win 2k is the resources that it takes. So make sure you're at least a little above the minimum requirements, or you're gonna wait like 5 mins. to start your computer (exaggerating a little...I have a 30 sec startup time, but I have professional. So I'm unsure about how Server would perform)
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lagwagon
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5 mins?!?
rofl i have win98 and 128mb of ram it takes me like 10 mins to start up
i would love it if my computer started in 5 mins
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Originally posted by lagwagon
5 mins?!?
rofl i have win98 and 128mb of ram it takes me like 10 mins to start up
i would love it if my computer started in 5 mins
your startup would improve a lot if you shrink down the number of programs that start up in the beginning or freeing up some hdd space. defraggin isn't a bad idea. strangely, i read ME had faster shutdown times than 2k and 9x X_x
hehe, i remember someone saying that his father in-law dl so many porn programs that it honestly took 15-20 min at least to startup... eventually it died...
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