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Sasami

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Posted on 09-14-02 06:23 AMQuote | Edit | Delete
BAH! not knowing what qbasic is! newbs! probably never even really used DOS what is the world coming to!
lagwagon









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Posted on 09-14-02 07:47 AMQuote | Edit | Delete
heh... not noob.. just young. and the only dos commands i know are cd, cd.., dir, and del lol

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(edited by lagwagon on 09-14-02 03:48 AM)
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Posted on 09-14-02 03:34 PMQuote | Edit | Delete
Originally posted by lagwagon
heh... not noob.. just young. and the only dos commands i know are cd, cd.., dir, and del lol


don't forget format c:\

but yea, had to learn to navigate through dos in my stupid cs classes

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Sasami

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Posted on 09-14-02 06:00 PMQuote | Edit | Delete
yay! fundisk is my favorite dos command
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Posted on 09-15-02 01:07 AMQuote | Edit | Delete
fundisk?

I know a few more dos commands than some...there's md, rd, cd progra~1...

nice to know that I'm not the only one that can use dos though. That'd be scary...

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Posted on 09-15-02 02:37 AMQuote | Edit | Delete
cd progra~1 is just the cd (change directory command) with a directory... filenames longer than 8 characters in dos are represented with the first six letters follwed by ~ then a #, starting with 1 then going up for other files that have the same first 6 letters and extension. The full 9-256 length is then looked up in the fat tables (file allocation table tables.. thats redundant, isn't it ). I dunno, i grew up in dos, i remember when i got windows 95, it felt so weird.
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Posted on 09-15-02 02:46 AMQuote | Edit | Delete
c:\del *.*
All files in directory will be deleted!
Are you sure? (Y/N) Y

*reboot!*

"Daddy, puter won't start..."
Sasami

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Posted on 09-15-02 05:10 AMQuote | Edit | Delete
um.. erm.. del doesnt delete directories, only files, what you are looking for is "deltree" or "format" or "fdisk" (commonly known where i am from as fun disk)
lagwagon









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Posted on 09-15-02 07:31 AMQuote | Edit | Delete
well yah i knew about the 8 character thing and the delete command... and i know that its really easy to run executables... but i didnt know any of the stuff like format and im sure theres more that i dont know also. anyway, im fine w/ my GUI thx =)

(oh btw you never told what qbasic was.)

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Posted on 09-15-02 02:31 PMQuote | Edit | Delete
Originally posted by Sasami
um.. erm.. del doesnt delete directories, only files, what you are looking for is "deltree" or "format" or "fdisk" (commonly known where i am from as fun disk)


Look at the path where the del command was executed.

I'm guessing you have never did this before.
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Posted on 09-15-02 04:09 PMQuote | Edit | Delete
QBasic stands for Q Basic. It's written by microsoft. And one of the older Basic compilers. VBasic is a more recent development programming language for Basic, and much easier to use to create windows applications. Plus, only later versions of QBasic actually allowed you to compile your programs. The earlier ones all interpreted the code.

QBasic huh? Think of writing a program in a text file, and a *.bas extension to it. and only that. VBasic is different. I think it has graphical object (buttons, cursors, lists...) files along with *.bas files.

The basic commands in QB are the same in VB...like input, print, sub, call...
But creating windows toolbars, command buttons, and all those other graphical objects...VB makes this much much easier.

There are other differences which you may notice, but I wouldn't worry about it. QB came with Windows 95...it might've carried over to windows 98, but it's not the programming language of choice these days. Too old.

And if you wanna look at QBasic files for neat tricks, you can just use a text editor.

Confused ne?

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Posted on 09-15-02 04:34 PMQuote | Edit | Delete
Originally posted by HyperSauce
Originally posted by Sasami
um.. erm.. del doesnt delete directories, only files, what you are looking for is "deltree" or "format" or "fdisk" (commonly known where i am from as fun disk)


Look at the path where the del command was executed.

I'm guessing you have never did this before.


Some OSs dont need the files in the c root directory. I remember a long time ago when I was first on the internet and my daddy had put cyberpatrol on my computer, I was trying to hack/get rid of it, and when it detected my attempts it deleted everything in my C root, but nothing else, and its a pain to recover deleted files Had to go search for the old undelete dos executable cause i didnt have norton at the time.
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Posted on 09-15-02 07:59 PMQuote | Edit | Delete
ahhh i see. i have written simple apps in that for fun, but i used it on a friends computer and didnt take notice of what is was called...
its the one in which syntax for helloworld app would look somthing like this?

10 rem HelloWorld.BAS
20 print"hello, world!"
30 goto 30

yah i am farmiliar w/ that is like the same as AtariBasic
and also, VB apps can be written entirely in notepad if you want(i dont know why you would), but you still need a compiler if you wana convert it to an executable


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MingShun









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Posted on 09-15-02 08:16 PMQuote | Edit | Delete
actually...a "hello world" program in QBasic would be:
Print "Hello World!"

But I think I was using v. 3...don't remember. It's been a while.

That's scary though, you willingly put a security program on your computer and it deletes everything if it detects tampering...

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DaiSHi

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Posted on 09-15-02 08:33 PMQuote | Edit | Delete
oh please not the hello world...

[first day of computer science]:

System.out.println("hello world");

ebil....

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Posted on 09-15-02 08:54 PMQuote | Edit | Delete
Wow...u guys post a lot of stuff....most of it is not about the subject that i was asking about but o well

lets just play the four word game

Once there was a......

continue it with only 4 words..
sasami...u can put this into a new thread if u want

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Posted on 09-15-02 10:29 PMQuote | Edit | Delete
What're the rules anyway?
I mean, How do you know how many letters?
How do you create the next sentence?
Is it supposed to make sense?
Is it fun?
What if I don't want to?
What is the direction of the story?
What if there's a baka that keeps asking questions?

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lagwagon









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Posted on 09-15-02 10:42 PMQuote | Edit | Delete
lol...
oh and i just looked up my syntax. it wasnt qbasic, but ataribasic

ahhhhhh atari.......

once there was a blah blah blah blah.
i win!!!!!

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HyperSauce









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Posted on 09-16-02 12:41 AMQuote | Edit | Delete
Originally posted by Sasami
Some OSs dont need the files in the c root directory.

The sad part to this story is, DOS did.
lagwagon









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Posted on 09-16-02 01:41 AMQuote | Edit | Delete
cool avatar hyper "confused" sauce...

yah that was pretty random.
oh yah and i remember when i deleted my c drive when i was... 7 i think it was. never went on the computer again untill i was 12 lol

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